Embracing Change and Curiosity in L&D Careers with Joe Leslie of Golin

On this episode, Joe Leslie, Vice President Global AI, L&D, of Golin, discusses his unconventional journey into L&D, his leadership in AI integration and the evolving role of human skills in an increasingly tech-driven workplace. Joe reflects on how AI is reshaping learning strategies, how performance engineering is becoming the new north star for L&D teams, and why adaptability will define future talent. He also shares key influences, including mentors who shaped his career and the resources that keep him informed.

Key Takeaways:

(02:06) A humanities background and curiosity about education led Joe to a career in corporate L&D.

(03:53) Corporate L&D offers strategic flexibility and the ability to shape learning outcomes.

(05:34) AI has continued to dominate L&D as a transformative force since late 2022.

(07:18) Reframing AI as intelligence augmentation highlights its collaborative potential.

(08:54) The future of L&D is shifting toward performance engineering and measurable outcomes.

(11:54) AI makes scalable, personalized learning support more achievable.

(17:29) Adaptability is among the most important skills in today’s evolving work environment.

(20:36) Human skills like emotional intelligence and curiosity are gaining greater value.

(21:34) Podcasts, events and LinkedIn remain key sources of professional insight.


Resources Mentioned:

Golin website

“Co-Intelligence” by Ethan Mollick

“How People Learn” by Nick Shackleton-Jones

The AI Show podcast




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